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Family 2 - Index
   
   



English Families

1 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 1g 1h 1i 1j 1k 1l 1m 1n 1o 1p 1r 1s 1t 1u 1w 1x 2 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f 2g 2h 2i 2j 2k 2l 2m 2n 2o 2p 2r 2s 2t 2u 2w 3 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 3g 3h 3i 3j 3k 3l 3m 3n 3o 4 4a 4b 4c 4d 4e 4f 4g 4h 4i 4j 4k 4l 4m 4n 4o 4p 4r 5 5a 5b 5c 5d 5e 5f 5g 5h 5i 5j 6 6a 6b 6c 6d 6e 6f 6x 7 7a 7b 7c 7d 7e 7f 8 8a 8b 8c 8d 8e 8f 8g 8h 8i 8j 8k 9 9a 9b 9c 9d 9e 9f 9g 9h 10 10a 10b 10c 10d 10e 11 11a 11b 11c 11d 11e 11f 12 12a 12b 12c 12d 12e 12f 12g 13 13a 13b 13c 13d 13e 14 14a 14b 14c 14d 14e 14f 15 15a 15b 15d 16 16a 16b 16c 16d 16e 16f 16g 16h 17 17a 17b 17c 17d 18 18a 19 19a 19b 19c 20 20a 20b 20c 20d 21 21a 22 22a 22b 22c 22d 23 23a 23b 24 25 26 27 27a 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74





BURTON BARB MARE (GB) f 1675c ..... Family 2
     Dicky Pierson Mare (GB) f 1690c Dicky Pierson (GB)
          Old Thornton (GB) f 1700c Brimmer (GB)
               Chesnut Thornton (GB) ch f 1705c Makeless (GB)
                    Lusty Thornton (GB) ch f 1710c Crofts Bay Barb (GB)
                    |     Brown Woodcock (GB) br f 1717 Woodcock [Darcy's] (GB)
                    |     |     Crofts Chestnut Mare (GB) ch f 1723c Greyhound (GB)
                    |     |     |     MARY GREY (IRE) gr f 1742 Starling [Bolton] (GB) ..... Mary Grey
                    |     |     Sister to Miss Barforth (GB) ch f 1731 Partner [Crofts] (GB)
                    |     |          Miss Makeless (GB) b f 1737 Young Greyhound (GB)
                    |     |               Sister To Lass Of The Mill (GB) f 1744c Traveller (GB)
                    |     |               |     Young Lass Of The Mill (GB) b f 1756 Oroonoko (GB)
                    |     |               |          ATALANTA (GB) ch f 1769 Matchem (GB) ..... 2-c
                    |     |               |              Faith (GB) gr f 1779 Pacolet (GB)
                    |     |               |              |     Marcia (GB) gr f 1797 Coriander (GB)
                    |     |               |              |     |     Marciana (GB) gr f 1809 Stamford (GB)
                    |     |               |              |     |          Comus Mare (GB) gr f 1821c Comus (GB)
                    |     |               |              |     |               PETER LELY MARE (GB) gr f 1826 Peter Lely (GB) ..... 2-w
                    |     |               |              |     Vesta (GB) gr f 1801 Delpini (GB)
                    |     |               |              |          EMMA (GB) gr f 1817 Don Cossack (GB) ..... 2-d
                    |     |               |              |               Cervantes Mare (GB) gr f 1825 Cervantes (GB)
                    |     |               |              |                    CHATEAU MARGAUX MARE (GB) br f 1832 Chateau Margaux (GB) ..... 2-e
                    |     |               |              ROSALIND (GB) ch f 1788 Phoenomenon (GB) ..... 2-l
                    |     |               |              Flora (GB) ch f 1789 King Fergus (GB)
                    |     |               |                   Zara (GB) b f 1801 Delpini (GB)
                    |     |               |                   |     Shuttle Mare (GB) b f 1807 Shuttle (GB)
                    |     |               |                   |          Octaviana (GB) b f 1815 Octavian (GB)
                    |     |               |                   |               CRUCIFIX (GB) b f 1837 Priam (GB) ..... 2-i
                    |     |               |                   HYACINTHUS MARE (GB) ch f 1804 Hyacinthus (GB) ..... 2-f
                    |     |               |                        Treasure (GB) ch f 1810 Camillus (GB)
                    |     |               |                             Arachne (GB) br f 1822 Filho Da Puta (GB)
                    |     |               |                             |     Industry (GB) br f 1835 Priam (GB)
                    |     |               |                             |          LADY EVELYN (GB) b f 1846 Don John (GB) ..... 2-g
                    |     |               |                             Leda (GB) b f 1824 Filho Da Puta (GB)
                    |     |               |                                  MARTHA LYNN (GB) br f 1837 Mulatto (GB) ..... 2-h
                    |     |               |                                       Eulogy (GB) b f 1843 Euclid (GB)
                    |     |               |                                            IMPERIEUSE (GB) b f 1854 Orlando (GB) ..... 2-j
                    |     |               |                                            IMPERATRICE (GB) b f 1859 Orlando (GB) ..... 2-k
                    |     |               LASS OF THE MILL (GB) b f 1745 Traveller (GB) ..... 2-m
                    |     |               |     Sister To Leonidas (GB) f 1756 Cade (GB)
                    |     |               |          Engineer Mare (GB) ch f 1770 Engineer (GB)
                    |     |               |               Alfred Mare (GB) f 1775 Alfred (GB)
                    |     |               |                    Highflyer Mare (GB) f 1780 Highflyer (GB)
                    |     |               |                         ALEXANDER MARE (GB) b f 1790 Alexander (GB) ..... 2-n
                    |     |               |                              Bronze (GB) br f 1803 Buzzard (GB)
                    |     |               |                              |     Sister To Busto (GB) br f 1816 Clinker (GB)
                    |     |               |                              |     |     Langar Mare (GB) br f 1837 Langar (GB)
                    |     |               |                              |     |          Gardham Mare (GB) f 1845 Gardham (GB)
                    |     |               |                              |     |               Rigolboche (GB) ch f 1861 Rataplan (GB)
                    |     |               |                              |     |                    MABILLE (GB) ch f 1868 Parmesan (GB) ..... 2-o
                    |     |               |                              |     MISS CHANTREY (GB) br f 1818 Clinker (GB) ..... 2-p
                    |     |               |                              ORVILLE MARE (GB) br f 1809 Orville (GB) ..... 2-s
                    |     |               |                              ELECTION MARE (GB) b f 1814 Election (GB) ..... 2-r
                    |     |               Miss Cade (GB) ch f 1750 Cade (GB)
                    |     |                    Cullen Arabian Mare (GB) b f 1756 Cullen Arabian
                    |     |                         OLD ENGLAND MARE (GB) b f 1766 Old England (GB) ..... 2-t
                    |     |                              Manilla (GB) br f 1777 Goldfinder (GB)
                    |     |                                   Miss Judy (GB) b f 1784 Alfred (GB)
                    |     |                                        Stamford Mare (GB) b f 1805 Stamford (GB)
                    |     |                                             Electress (GB) ch f 1819 Election (GB)
                    |     |                                                  SPLITVOTE (GB) ch f 1841 St. Luke (GB) ..... 2-u
                    |     RINGBONE (GB) ch f 1732 Partner [Crofts] (GB) ..... 2-a
                    Woodcock Thornton (GB) ch f 1718 Woodcock [Darcy's] (GB)
                         Margery (GB) ch f 1730 Partner [Crofts] (GB)
                              Looby Mare (GB) f 1743c Looby [Bolton] (GB)
                                   Phoebe (GB) f 1755 Tortoise (GB)
                                        Ancaster Nancy (GB) ch f 1767 Blank (GB)
                                             SQUIRREL MARE (GB) f 1775 Squirrel (GB) ..... 2-b
   
   
Bowes

The dam line of Bowes is suspect. In 1891 the General Stud Book records Bowes as a half-sister to Surley (1708) and Whitefoot (1709) [GSB 1:5]. However, Cuthbert Routh's stud book says that Mr Hutton's Surley "was gott by his Gray Barb, his dam by ye Royall Colt, her dam by Byerley Turk, her dam by Bustler, her dam by a Barb, and her dam by Bay Dodsworth" [Early Records:30]. Since Mr Hutton is said by the General Stud Book to have bred all three siblings it may be reasonable to move the entire line of Bowes to Family 8, although Routh's stud book only mentions Surley. However, Mr Heber does not mention Bowes whilst recording that Surley was a brother to the Rutland Whitefoot and to the dam of Lord Portmore's Grey Childers [Heber 1752:191].
 
Little Bowes

In 1827 the General Stud Book records the pedigree of Little Bowes as "got by a brother to Mixbury, her dam, Bowes, by Hutton's Barb - Byerly Turk - Selaby Turk - Mr Place's mare, by Hautboy - Sister to Morgan's Dun, by a son of the Helmsley Turk - Dodsworth - Burton Barb" [GSB 1/3:28]. It should be noted that Mr Place died in 1676 and was unlikely to own a Hautboy Mare who must have been foaled later than 1690, and that no mention is made of Surley and Whitefoot. The Turf Register records the pedigree of Little Bowes as "by Lord Chedworth's Mixbury; grandam by Mr Hutton's Grey Barb, brought over by Mr Marshall; great grandam by the Byerley Turk, out of a full sister to the Coffin Mare" [Pick 1:223].
 
Mixbury

In 1791 the pedigree of Mixbury (grandaughter of Bowes) is given as "got by Regulus - Brother to Mixbury - Hutton's Barb, brought over by Mr Marshall - Byerly Turk - Selaby Turk - Mr Place's Mare, which he had out of Oliver Cromwell's Stud" [Intro:90]. This is unlikely as such a mare would have been foaled before 1658.
 
Coppin Mare

The General Stud Book notes that "the Coppin Mare is confused in Pick, and in old pedigrees, with The Coffin Mare (a mare so called by being concealed by Mr Place in a cellar in Fenchurch Street, at the time of the Restoration, which was probably her grandam). Pick also [1:223] makes the grandam of Little Bowes as out of an own sister to The Coffin Mare" [GSB 1:7]. This suggests that Little Bowes should belong to Family 28

The following is based on original research done by Highflyer.

An Introduction to General Stud-Book says that the Selaby Turk Mare was out of Mr Place's Mare from Cromwell's stud, while a later version of the General Stud Book says that the Selaby Turk Mare was out of Mr Place's Mare out of a sister to Morgan's Dun out of a Dodsworth Mare out of a Burton Barb Mare. Since Mr Place's Hautboy Mare was a figment, she should also be dropped from the later version. Little Bowes pedigree would then read:

Little Bowes by Chedworth's Brother to Mixbury
     Bowes by Hutton's Grey Barb [dam]
          Mare by Byerley Turk [grandam]
               Mare by Selaby Turk [g grandam]
                    Sister to Morgan's Dun by Helmsley Turk Colt [gg grandam]
                         Mare by Dodsworth [ggg grandam]
                              Mare by Burton Barb [gggg grandam]

In 1891 the General Stud Book says that the Coppin Mare, by the Selaby Turk was out of a mare by Place's White Turk and the Turf Register says that the grandam of Little Bowes was out of a sister to the Coffin (Coppin) Mare:

Little Bowes by Chedworth's Brother to Mixbury
     Bowes by Hutton's Grey Barb [dam]
          Mare by Byerley Turk [grandam]
               Sister to Coppin Mare by Selaby Turk [g grandam]
                    Sister to Morgan's Dun by Helmsley Turk Colt [gg grandam]
                         Mare by Dodsworth [ggg grandam]
                              Mare by Burton Barb [gggg grandam]

However, the Coppin Mare was out of a mare by Place's White Turk:

Little Bowes by Chedworth's Brother to Mixbury
     Bowes by Hutton's Grey Barb [dam]
          Mare by Byerley Turk [grandam]
               Sister to Coppin Mare by Selaby Turk [g grandam]
                    Sister to Morgan's Dun by Place's White Turk [gg grandam]
                         Mare by Dodsworth [ggg grandam]
                              Mare by Burton Barb [gggg grandam]

This suggests that not only can Little Bowes be identified with Family 28, but also that Family 28 can be identified with Family 2.

Note that the Helmsley Turk Colt is replaced by Place's White Turk. This suggests that the Helmsley Turk Colt was the same horse as Place's White Turk, and was sired by the Helmsley Turk.

   
     

     
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