Layton Violet Barb Mare

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Family 4

English Families

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Profiles

Old Scar

Layton Violet Barb Mare

The pedigree for Whistlejacket says he "was got by Mogul; his dam by Sweepstakes; a daughter of the Hampton Court Chesnut Arabian, Makeless, Brimmer, Mr Place's White Turk, Dodsworth, out of Mr Layton's Violet Barb Mare, which was a broodmare in Lord Darcy's Stud" [Pick 1:154].

Note that Dodsworth was mated to a mare in Lord Darcy's Stud "Mr Burton's Violet Barb Mare in Lord Darcy's Stud" whose daughter by Dicky Pierson, son of Dodsworth, was third dam of Desdemona [Pick 1:242]. This places Dodsworth at Sedbury and the Burton Barb Mare at Sedbury. This could suggest that the taproot mares of Family 2 and Family 4 are the same mare.

Bay Bloody Buttocks

Her pedigree is corrected in the General Stud Book to "her dam by Greyhound, out of Brown Farewell, by Makeless" [GSB:Additional Errata and Addenda].

Trumpet's Dam

The General Stud Book says she was bred at Hampton Court, "her dam by Dodsworth, out of (Violet) Layton Barb Mare" [GSB 1:15]. She is credited with four daughters and one son (Trumpet). Her daughter, Brimmer Mare, is said to have been given by Queen Anne to Mr Croft. Brimmer Mare produced Brown Farewell and her sister [GSB 1:4]. Sister to Brown Farewell produced Mr Elstob's Cripple Barb Mare, which produced "about 1717 c Cartouch, by the Bald Galloway" [GSB 1:13]. Of Darcy's Yellow Turk, the General Stud Book says only that he was the sire of Spanker, Brimmer, and the great great grandam of Cartouch" [GSB 1:389]. This would mean that Darcy's Yellow Turk and Place's White Turk are both said to have sired the 4th dam of Cartouch (Trumpet's 2nd dam).

However, the General Stud Book has chosen Brown Farewell to be the Makeless Mare, thereby adding a Brimmer cross. Both Pick and Heber say that the Makeless Mare was a foal of Trumpet's Dam.

"Cartouch was got by the Bald Galloway; his dam was bred in the Royal Stud at Hampton-Court, and got by the Cripple Barb; grandam by Makeless; great grandam by Place's White Turk, a daughter of Dodsworth, out of Mr Layton's Violet Barb Mare" [Pick 1:17].

"The White Turk got the great grandams of Old Scar, Wyndham, Crutches, Old Cartouch and several others" [Pick 1:71].

"The White Turk of Mr Place's got the Great Grandams of Grey Ramsden, Scar, Guy, Cartouch, Young Greyhound" [Heber 1744:xi].

"The Yellow Turk, which got Spanker, got Brimmer, the Great Great Grand-Dam of Old Cartouch, and many others" [Heber 1744:ix].

The Makeless Mare is listed as a foal of Trumpet's Dam in the General Stud Book [GSB 1:15]. Thus Makeless Mare appears to be the dam of Elstob's Cripple Barb Mare. This now means that both Dodsworth and Darcy's Yellow Turk are cited as having sired the 4th dam of Cartouch. Since there is evidence that Dodsworth and Darcy's Yellow Turk are the same horse, the conflict is resolved.

For more information on Dodsworth and Darcy's Yellow Turk, see the article by Highflyer.

Centurion

"He was got by a Son of Mr Conyers's Arabian, out of an own sister to the dam of Old Cartouch" [Pick 1:154].

"Centurion's dam was got by the Cripple Barb, out of the old Croft's Makeless Mare, which was own sister to the Dam of the late Sir William Morgan's Cartouch" [Pond 1756:162].

Sister to Red Rose

As shown in the General Stud Book the Duke of Somerset's Red Rose, and his sister, were from Croft's Pet Mare. However, according to 18th-century stallion advertisements, they were not out of this Pet Mare. Their dam was instead a mare called Smug, she by Slug and out of "a Mare of Mr Frampton's Bull-kind" [The Newcastle Courant Saturday, April 6, 1734 No 467].

Sir Walter

Sir Walter started as 2nd favourite for the 1819 St Leger based on his two prior wins. However, the race was sent off leaving several horses at the post, including Sir Walter. Antonio (b c 1816 Octavian) finished first. The stewards declared a false start, then reran the race, which Sir Walter won. Antonio declined to rerun. However the starter was satisfied with the first running and after an appeal, the stewards ruled that the second running should not have been allowed and Antonio was declared the winner.


Garnir (RUS) 1958 Bolsoj Vserossijskij Priz		Sir Walter (GB) 1820 York King's Plate

The Duchess (GB) 1816 St Leger Stakes		The Finn (USA) 1915 Belmont Stakes

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