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Profiles


Brocklesby Betty


Gimcrack


Chanticleer

PIPING PEG'S DAM
     Hobby Mare (Lister's Turk)
          Brocklesby Betty (Curwen's Bay Barb)
               Brocklesby (Greyhound)
                    Bay Brocklesby (Partner [Crofts])
                         Dairymaid (Bloody Buttocks)
                              Starling Mare (Starling [Bolton])
                                   Allworthy Mare (Allworthy)
                                        A-LA-GRECQUE (Regulus) ..... 23-a
                                        Cub Mare (Cub)
                                             TURK MARE (Turk) ..... 23-b
 

 
PIPING PEG'S DAM (GB) f 1690c
     Piping Peg (GB) gr f 1698c Lister's Turk
     |     Snout (GB) c 1715c Snout (GB)
     Hobby Mare (GB) gr f 1700c Lister's Turk
          BROCKLESBY (GB) b c 1709 Curwen's Bay Barb ..... GB QP
          LONG MEGG (GB) gr f 1710 Curwen's Bay Barb ..... GB QP
          BROCKLESBY BETTY (GB) ch f 1711 Curwen's Bay Barb ..... GB QP
          |     Brocklesby (GB) gr f 1721 Greyhound (GB)
          |     |     Grey Brocklesby (GB) gr f 1728 Bloody Buttock (GB)
          |     |     |     LITTLE JOHN [Crofts] (GB) gr c 1740 Partner [Crofts] (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     |     |     Caelia (GB) gr f 1742 Partner [Crofts] (GB)
          |     |     |     |     Miss Elliot (GB) gr f 1756 Partner [Grisewood's] (GB)
          |     |     |     |          GIMCRACK (GB) gr c 1760 Cripple (GB)
          |     |     |     |          Trinket (GB) gr f 1767 Matchem (GB)
          |     |     |     |          |     Weathercock (GB) gr c 1785 Highflyer (GB)
          |     |     |     |          Sister To Trinket (GB) f 1770c Matchem (GB)
          |     |     |     |               Highflyer Mare (GB) f 1782c Highflyer (GB)
          |     |     |     |                    Lady Emily (IRE) f 1786 Lenox (IRE)
          |     |     |     |                    |     Fitz Emily (IRE) ch c 1800 Chanticleer (IRE)
          |     |     |     |                    Brown Fanny (IRE) br f 1799 Maximin (IRE)
          |     |     |     |                         Champion Mare (IRE) b f 1810 Champion (GB)
          |     |     |     |                              THETIS (IRE) b f 1817 Navigator (IRE) ..... IRE QP
          |     |     |     |                              Kiss (IRE) b f 1827 Waxy Pope (GB)
          |     |     |     |                                   WHIM (IRE) gr f 1832 Drone (IRE) ..... continued below
          |     |     |     |                                   Michaelmas Daisy (IRE) ch f 1845 Verulam (IRE)
          |     |     |     |                                        Wild Daisy (IRE) ch f 1857 King Fisher (IRE)
          |     |     |     |                                        |     Wild Vixen (IRE) b f 1867 Victor (GB)
          |     |     |     |                                        |     |     PET FOX (IRE) b c 1884 Philammon (IRE) ..... IRE D
          |     |     |     |                                        |     |     Pet Vixen (IRE) b f 1885 Philammon (IRE)
          |     |     |     |                                        |     |          Wild Vixen (IRE) ch f 1901 Wildfowler (IRE)
          |     |     |     |                                        |     |               Vixen's Pet (IRE) ch f 1910 Tredennis (GB)
          |     |     |     |                                        |     |                    Great Pet (IRE) ch f 1920 Great Sport (IRE)
          |     |     |     |                                        |     |                         PETONI (IRE) ch f 1929 Zanoni (IRE) ..... IRE 1G
          |     |     |     |                                        |     REDSKIN (IRE) ch g 1874 Uncas (GB) ..... IRE D
          |     |     |     |                                        Revolver (IRE) b c 1860 Artillery (IRE)
          |     |     |     Sister To Caelia (GB) gr f 1747 Partner [Crofts] (GB)
          |     |     |          Regulus Mare (GB) gr f 1759 Regulus (GB)
          |     |     |          |     Le Sang Mare (GB) b f 1774 Le Sang (GB)
          |     |     |          |          Bryan O'Lynn (GB) br c 1796 Aston (GB)
          |     |     |          Bay Babraham (GB) b f 1760 Babraham (GB)
          |     |     |               Johnny (GB) b c 1769 Matchem (GB)
          |     |     |               Nanny (GB) gr f 1771 Twig (GB)
          |     |     |               |     MERRY LASS (GB) ch f 1782 Young Marske (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     |     |               Jacintha (GB) ch f 1773 Forester [Cornforth's] (GB)
          |     |     |                    ANTAEUS (GB) b c 1789 Phlegon (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     |     Bay Brocklesby (GB) b f 1731 Partner [Crofts] (GB)
          |     |          FORESTER [Crofts] (GB) ch c 1736 Hartley's Blind Horse (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     |          Dairymaid (GB) b f 1737 Bloody Buttocks (GB)
          |     |          |     Starling Mare (GB) f 1746c Starling [Bolton] (GB)
          |     |          |     |     Allworthy Mare (GB) f 1755c Allworthy (GB)
          |     |          |     |     |     A-LA-GRECQUE (GB) ch f 1763 Regulus (GB) ..... 23-a
          |     |          |     |     |     Cub Mare (GB) ch f 1764 Cub (GB)
          |     |          |     |     |          TURK MARE (GB) f 1770c Turk (GB) ..... 23-b
          |     |          |     |     NANNETTE (GB) b f 1761 Matchem (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     |          |     Sister To Dan (GB) f 1747c Regulus (GB)
          |     |          |     |     Swift Mare (GB) f 1765c Swift (GB)
          |     |          |     |          MAGNUM BONUM (GB) br c 1773 Matchem (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     |          |     PRINCE T'QUASSAW (GB) b c 1751 Snip (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     |          TEAZER [Old] (GB) gr c 1739 Starling [Bolton] (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     |          JESSAMY (GB) ch c 1749 Spot [Hutton's] (GB) ..... GB QP
          |     Brocklesby (GB) ch c 1723 Woodcock (GB) or Greyhound (GB)
          Hip (GB) gr c 1716c Curwen's Bay Barb
 

 
WHIM (IRE) gr f 1832 Drone (IRE) ..... continued
     CHANTICLEER (IRE) gr c 1843 Birdcatcher (IRE)
     Hetman Platoff Mare (IRE) ch f 1845 Hetman Platoff (GB)
     |     Birdcatcher Mare (IRE) ch f 1850 Birdcatcher (IRE)
     |     |     Darling (GB) b f 1855 Annandale (GB)
     |     |     |     Venus (IRE) b f 1867 Gunboat (IRE)
     |     |     |          Matilda (GB) b f 1874 Solon (IRE)
     |     |     |               Cabin Boy (GB) br c 1889 Jack Tar (GB)
     |     |     Solon (IRE) b c 1861 West Australian (GB)
     |     |     Tom King (IRE) b c 1863 King Tom (GB)
     |     |     Bon Accord (IRE) b f 1867 Adventurer (GB)
     |     |     |     Ballyroe (IRE) ch f 1872 Belladrum (GB)
     |     |     |     |     Barcaldine (IRE) b c 1878 Solon (IRE)
     |     |     |     |     Miss Augusta (IRE) ch f 1881 Mr. Winkle (IRE)
     |     |     |     |          Cresta (GB) b f 1891 Prestonpans (GB)
     |     |     |     |          |     Crested Grebe (IRE) ch f 1897 Gallinule (GB)
     |     |     |     |          |     |     MAXIM (AH) ch c 1905 St. Maclou (GB) ..... AUT 2G, HUN SL
     |     |     |     |          |     |     ÖREG LAK (AH) br c 1912 Macdonald (FR) ..... HUN 2G
     |     |     |     |          |     Game Hen (IRE) ch f 1898 Gallinule (GB)
     |     |     |     |          |          Canterbury Chick (GB) f 1912 Chaucer (GB)
     |     |     |     |          |               Chickling (AUS) b f 1921 Spearhead (GB)
     |     |     |     |          |                    Cackle (AUS) br f 1933 Windbag (AUS)
     |     |     |     |          |                         Parlez Vous (AUS) br f 1945 Kinderscout (GB)
     |     |     |     |          |                              Lush (AUS) b f 1961 Orgoglio (IRE)
     |     |     |     |          |                                   Grable (AUS) b f 1970 Showdown (GB)
     |     |     |     |          |                                        My Evita (AUS) br f 1978 Comeram (FR)
     |     |     |     |          |                                             VITALIC (AUS) br c 1985 Noalcoholic (FR) ..... AUS MRC G
     |     |     |     |          ROYAL ARCH (IRE) br c 1901 Florizel (GB) ..... IRE D
     |     |     |     Berengaria (IRE) ch f 1877 George Frederick (GB)
     |     |     |          Berigonium (GB) b f 1884 Hampton (GB)
     |     |     |          |     Belle Fille (IRE) b f 1898 St. David (GB)
     |     |     |          |     |     Scornetta (ITY) br f 1909 Genial (FR)
     |     |     |          |     |          Saragozza (ITY) b f 1920 Signorino (GB)
     |     |     |          |     |               Santuzza (ITY) b f 1934 Havresac (FR)
     |     |     |          |     |               |     SACCAROA (ITY) b f 1947 Moroni (ITY) ..... ITY 1G 2G
     |     |     |          |     |               Sagra (ITY) br f 1936 The Yellow Dwarf (GB)
     |     |     |          |     |                    Sagrado (ITY) br c 1947 Nakamuro (ITY)
     |     |     |          |     Royal Ia (IRE) b f 1900 Kendal Royal (IRE)
     |     |     |          |          Forfaria (GB) b f 1908 Forfarshire (GB)
     |     |     |          |               DOUBLE SCOTCH (IRE) bl c 1914 Seaforth (IRE) ..... IRE SL
     |     |     |          St. Ia (GB) br f 1895 St. Serf (GB)
     |     |     |          |     Ednam (GB) ch c 1905 Isinglass (GB)
     |     |     |          Ian (GB) b c 1898 St. Serf (GB)
     |     |     Xenophon (IRE) b c 1872 Canary (GB)
     |     Confidence (IRE) b f 1853 Mickey Free (IRE)
     |     |     Newton-Le-Willows Mare (IRE) b f 1867 Newton-Le-Willows (IRE)
     |     |          Talipes (IRE) bl 1875 Aster (IRE)
     |     |               Eserine (IRE) br f 1881 Victor (GB)
     |     |                    Honeypound (IRE) b f 1891 Somerford (GB)
     |     |                         Quin Abbey (IRE) b c 1905 Morganatic (GB)
     |     Antelope (IRE) b f 1856 Mountain Deer (GB)
     |     |     Gazelle (IRE) b f 1865 Ivan (GB)
     |     |          Athy (IRE) br f 1875 Knight Of The Garter (GB)
     |     |          |     Bagnalstown (IRE) b f 1883 Spennithorne (GB)
     |     |          |     |     Lady Bagnal (IRE) b f 1902 Enthusiast (GB)
     |     |          |     |          Happy Hours (IRE) ch f 1914 St. Monans (GB)
     |     |          |     |               Happy Argo (IRE) b c 1923 Argosy (IRE)
     |     |          |     Ramelton Lassie (GB) b f 1888 Melton (GB)
     |     |          |     |     Palatia (GB) br f 1897 Grand Duke (GB)
     |     |          |     |     |     PALLADIUM (BEL) b c 1903 Houndsditch (GB) ..... BEL D
     |     |          |     |     Romola (GER) br f 1902 Sperber's Bruder (GER)
     |     |          |     |          Roma (AH) br f 1908 Matchbox (GB)
     |     |          |     |               ROMANZE (GER) br f 1917 Fervor (GER) ..... GER 1G
     |     |          |     |                    Rheinwein (GER) b c 1923 Arranmore (IRE)
     |     |          |     Doubtful Spec (GB) b f 1890 Crafton (GB)
     |     |          |          Little Flutter (GB) b c 1905 Missel Thrush (GB)
     |     |          MASTER NED (IRE) b c 1878 Roman Bee (IRE) ..... IRE D
     |     |          Esther (IRE) b f 1885 Arbitrator (IRE)
     |     |               The Israelite (IRE) b f 1896 Isosceles (GB)
     |     |                    CIVILITY (IRE) b c 1909 Grebe (GB) ..... IRE D
     |     Minerva (IRE) ch f 1859 Stockwell (IRE)
     |          Strategy (IRE) br f 1867 Adventurer (GB)
     |               MADAME DU BARRY (IRE) b f 1875 Favonius (GB) ..... IRE D
     |               |     Luciennes (GB) b f 1885 Beauclerc (GB)
     |               |     |     Lucina (GB) b f 1893 Bend Or (GB)
     |               |     |          Mrs. Gamp (GB) b f 1900 St. Simon (GB)
     |               |     |               At Last (GB) b f 1910 Great Scot (AUS)
     |               |     |               |     Kentish Knock (GB) ch c 1922 Galloper Light (GB)
     |               |     |               Radium Mare (GB) b f 1913 Radium (GB)
     |               |     |                    Bright Hackle (IRE) ch f 1917 Royal Hackle (IRE)
     |               |     |                    |     Athlone Lass (IRE) ch f 1924 Athlone (IRE)
     |               |     |                    |     |     British Queen (IRE) br f 1941 Knight Of The Garter (GB)
     |               |     |                    |     |          Belpatrick (IRE) b f 1948 Khosro (GB)
     |               |     |                    |     |               Bell Bird (IRE) ch f 1954 Mustang (GB)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    Arctic Melody (GB) b f 1962 Arctic Slave (IRE)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     Nilie (GB) b f 1968 Relko (GB)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |     Mona Curragh (IRE) br f 1975 Levmoss (IRE)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |          CASTLETOWN (NZ) b g 1986 One Pound Sterling (GB)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |                                                                        ..... NZ ARC D
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     Le Melody (IRE) ch f 1971 Levmoss (IRE)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |     ARDROSS (IRE) b c 1976 Run The Gantlet (USA) ..... GB AGC, FR SL
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |     Thistlewood (IRE) gr f 1979 Kalamoun (GB)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |     |     Ardmelody (IRE) b f 1987 Law Society (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |     |          SCORPION (IRE) bbr c 2002 Montjeu (IRE) ..... GB SL
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |     Gesedeh (IRE) ch f 1983 Ela-Mana-Mou (IRE)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |          Dance On The Stage (GB) b f 1989 Dancing Brave (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |          |     ROBERTICO (GB) b c 1995 Robellino (USA) ..... GER D
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |          Elbaaha (GB) ch f 1994 Arazi (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     |               Electrocutionist (USA) b c 2001 Red Ransom (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |     ARCTIQUE ROYALE (IRE) b f 1978 Royal And Regal (USA) ..... IRE 1G
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |          Truly Special (IRE) b f 1985 Caerleon (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |               Solo De Lune (IRE) b f 1990 Law Society (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |               |     MOONSTONE (GB) b f 2005 Dalakhani (IRE) ..... IRE O
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |               Rain Queen (GB) ch f 1992 Rainbow Quest (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    |                    Contact Dancer (IRE) b g 1999 Sadler's Wells (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                    Arctic Chimes (GB) b f 1967 Arctic Slave (IRE)
     |               |     |                    |     |                         Faraway Places (IRE) ch f 1978 Flair Path (GB)
     |               |     |                    |     |                              Banatee (IRE) ch f 1987 Thatching (IRE)
     |               |     |                    |     |                                   Bokellen (GER) b f 1997 Motley (USA)
     |               |     |                    |     |                                        BRAZILIAN COLOUR (GER) ch f 2006 Platini (GER) ..... HRV D
     |               |     |                    |     Irish Lancer (IRE) b c 1929 Allenby (GB)
     |               |     |                    Radiogram (GB) b f 1919 Juggernaut (GB)
     |               |     |                         Shannon Jug (IRE) br f 1923 Athlone (IRE)
     |               |     |                              Solenoid (IRE) br c 1929 Soldennis (IRE)
     |               |     Favorite (GB) br f 1887 Beauclerc (GB)
     |               |          Cocote (FR) b f 1896 Vigilant (FR)
     |               |               Coquille (FR) b f 1907 Lady Killer (FR)
     |               |                    Coquelourde (FR) ch f 1915 Rabelais (GB)
     |               |                         Coqueluche (FR) ch f 1922 Passebreul (FR)
     |               |                         |     Coquetterie (FR) ch f 1935 Massine (FR)
     |               |                         |          Cybele (FR) ch f 1941 Chateau Bouscaut (FR)
     |               |                         |               Colonist (FR) gr c 1946 Rienzo (FR)
     |               |                         Coquerelle (FR) ch f 1926 Comrade (IRE)
     |               |                              Tomorrow (FR) b f 1939 Easton (FR)
     |               |                                   CAMBREMER (FR) ch c 1953 Chamossaire (IRE) ..... GB SL
     |               St. George (GB) bl c 1883 Cremorne (GB)
     Grey Plover (IRE) gr c 1851 Birdcatcher (IRE)
     Sister To Chanticleer (GB) gr f 1853 Birdcatcher (IRE)
          Kate Kearney (IRE) b f 1864 Claret (GB)
          |     Ida (IRE) br f 1881 Billy Pitt (IRE)
          |          Ballistite (IRE) bl f 1894 Buckshot (IRE)
          |               Gelignite (IRE) b f 1905 Northshampton (GB)
          |                    Luss (IRE) b f 1917 Lomond (GB)
          |                         Lurriga (GB) br f 1933 Birthright (GB)
          |                              Legenda (GB) br f 1946 Valerian (GB)
          |                                   Lititia (RUM) b f 1960 Mosquito (RUM)
          |                                        Laudatio (GER) b f 1977 Kronzeuge (GER)
          |                                             Lawooda (GER) b f 1988 Touching Wood (USA)
          |                                                  LAUREAT (GER) b c 2003 Medaaly (GB) ..... CZE D
          Cock-A-Hoop (IRE) bbl f 1867 Gunboat (IRE)
               Wedding Eve (IRE) ch f 1888 Rhidorroch (GB)
                    Aroon (IRE) ch f 1908 Uncle Mac (GB)
                         Orris (IRE) ch f 1914 Orby (GB)
                              Erne (IRE) ch f 1921 White Eagle (GB)
                              |     Gallerne (USA) ch f 1932 Gallant Fox (USA)
                              |     |     Sun Hera (USA) ch f 1939 Sun Teddy (USA)
                              |     |          Double Sun (USA) ch f 1958 Sunglow (USA)
                              |     |               Sun Reality (USA) bbr f 1970 In Reality (USA)
                              |     |                    Cute Little Moon (USA) bbr f 1978 Ack Ack (USA)
                              |     |                         Moon Drone (USA) gr f 1987 Drone (USA)
                              |     |                              JOSTLE (USA) bbr f 1997 Brocco (USA) ..... USA CCAO
                              |     Lady Erne (USA) b f 1934 Sir Gallahad (FR)
                              |          Miss Rushin (USA) b f 1942 Blenheim (GB)
                              |               PONDER (USA) bbr c 1946 Pensive (USA) ..... USA KD
                              Dolores (IRE) ch f 1926 Diligence (IRE)
                                   Jolie Reine (FR) ch f 1935 Palais Royal (FR)
                                   |     SOUVERAIN (FR) b c 1943 Maravedis (FR) ..... FR SL, GB AGC
                                   |     Rajput Princess (IRE) b f 1951 My Babu (FR)
                                   |          Rajput Rose (GB) ch f 1959 Buisson Ardent (FR)
                                   |               Wind Of Change (IRE) b f 1976 Windjammer (USA)
                                   |                    Devil Wind (AUS) b f 1982 Without Fear (FR)
                                   |                         Spinning Reel (AUS) ch f 1987 Kaoru Star (AUS)
                                   |                              ALFA (AUS) br g 1993 El Moxie (USA) ..... AUS MRC G
                                   Kess (FR) b f 1936 Dark Legend (GB)
                                        Kesrullah (GB) ch c 1949 Nasrullah (IRE)
   
Family 23 and Early Sources

 

Sampling of contemporary members of family 23 has found three mitochondrial DNA haplotypes representative of three separate founder mares in family 23. One of these is found in the trunk and both branches and is most plausibly representative of the family founder. Another haplotype is found only in branch 23-a, and the third only in branch 23-b. Both are most likely indicative of error at some point in the stud book record for those branches.
 

 
Piping Peg & Hobby
The earliest broodmare of Bruce Lowe's family 23 entered in the General Stud Book (GSB), appears on page 11 of the 5th, revised edition, of 1891, in the First Part.  The introductory paragraph of this section says:

"The following list of the earliest known mares, very few of which have been printed before as brood mares (though the substance has been given in the Miscellaneous Pedigrees at the end of earlier editions), are combined with the imported Eastern stallions, the source, with hardly any exception, of the whole of the so-called thorough-bred stock now existant..."

This mare's entry is given as
THE HOBBY MARE,
Got by Lister's Turk, out of the Duke of Kingston's *Piping Peg.
     1709  b c  Brocklesby, by the Curwen Bay Barb  ...  Mr Curwen
     1711  ch f  Brocklesby Betty, by ditto  ...  Mr Curwen
     * Piping Peg had also a sister to the Hobby mare, which was the dam in 1716 of Mr Pelham's Hip, by The Curwen Bay Barb.

A sister to Piping Peg had a filly by Hip, which was the dam of Sir A Hazlerigg's Ringtail Galloway, by The Curwen Bay Barb, which was dam in 1737 of Mr E O'Brien's Patch or Miss Patch, by Lord Halifax's Justice.  MISS PATCH was the dam in Ireland of Brutus, by Old England, and Patty, by Tim (son of Squirt).
 


Brocklesby Betty
Brocklesby Betty is entered as a broodmare on page 43 of the same edition as
BROCKLESBY BETTY,
Bred by Mr PELHAM, in 1711, got by the Curwen Bay Barb, out of Mr Leedes's Hobby Mare, by the Lister Turk.
     1721  gr f  Brocklesby, by Greyhound  ...  Mr Crofts
     1723  ch c  Brocklesby, by Woodcock  ...  Lord Godolphin
In 1722 missed to Woodcock.

 


The General Stud Book Interpretation
The roots of this family tree then, according to GSB, look like this --

Dam of Piping Peg
     Piping Peg
     |     THE HOBBY MARE, got by Lister's Turk
     |    |     1709  Mr Curwen's Brocklesby (b c) by the Curwen Bay Barb
     |    |     1711  Mr Curwen's Brocklesby Betty (ch f) by the Curwen Bay Barb
     |    |          1721  Mr Crofts' Brocklesby (gr f) by Greyhound
     |    |          1723  Lord Godolphin's Brocklesby (ch c) by Woodcock
     |     Sister to the Hobby Mare
     |         1716  Mr Pelham's Hip, by the Curwen Bay Barb
     Sister to Piping Peg
          Mare by Hip
               Sir A Hazlerigg's Ringtail Galloway, by the Curwen Bay Barb
                    1737  Mr E O'Brien's (Miss) Patch, by the Halifax Justice
                         Brutus, by Old England
                         Patty, by Tim (son of Squirt)
 


Other Evidence
Records from the 18th century, however, call this construction into question, and, in fact, suggest that considerable revision should be made.
1.
The first record is an entry in Cuthbert Routh's Stud-Book, as published by C M Prior in Early Records of the Thoroughbred Horse, 1924. This particular pedigree is undated but is included in a section with pedigrees dated from 1725 to 1734.
Hipp was gott by Mr Pellham's Bay Barb, his dam by Lister's Turk, and was full sistr to Piping Pegg; and Hipp was full brothr to Long Megg. - per Mr PELLHAM.
This pedigree may be interpreted as saying that Hip and Long Meg were both got by Mr Pelham's Bay Barb, and out of a full sister to Piping Peg, got by Lister's Turk.
 
2.
The next record is an advertisement appearing on page 10 of the Newcastle Courant, for March 20 & 27, 1724-5.  This reads:
These are to give Notice, That the famous Stallion call'd, HIP, late belonging to Sir Wm Blacket, Bar. is now in the Possession of Mr Fenwick Bowman of Elfhils in Northumberland, where any Gentleman may have Mares served, paying each Mare one Guinea:  This Stallion is full Brother to Long Meg, and Brockelsby's Betty, got with Pelham's Barb, and out of Hobby's Mare, which was bred by Mr Leeds, and is now reckon'd one of the most valued stud Mares in all England, he challeng'd all the 5 Years old in England, which Challenge was accepted, and Run by a Horse of Mr Pullien, being reckon'd the Best of that Age; but he was beat by HIP, with a great deal of Ease; He was soon after, by a Misfortune in one of his Sweats, rendered uncapable of being any longer a Training one.
This advertisement provides additional information that Hip and Long Meg had another full sibling, the mare Brocklesby Betty; also, that their dam was bred by Mr Leeds, and known as Hobby's Mare.  The wording suggests that this mare may still have been alive in 1724.
 
3.
The next record is also an advertisement from the Newcastle Courant, which appeared on page 10 of the edition for April 17, 1724; it provides evidence that Piping Peg had at least one offspring, a colt called Snout, after his sire.
These are to give Notice, that the famous Horse call'd, Snout, formerly the Duke of Kingston's, and now in the Possession of Lancelot Machell, Esq; of Crackenthorp, Sheriff of the County of Westmoreland, is design'd to serve Mares this Year:  All Gentlemen and Others, that send their Mares to Crackinthorp near Appleby, in the County aforesaid, may have them served at A Guinea each Mare, viz half in Hand, the other at the Sight of the Foal, This Stallion is got by old Snout, and out of Piping Pegg; he has run with great Success at New-market, in Yorkshire, Bishoprick, Westmoreland, Cumberland, and Northumberland:  The said Horse is Wax-work for Beauty, and for Strength and Goodness not to be paralleled.
It is of interest that Snout is referred to as "formerly the Duke of Kingston's", since Piping Peg is also said to have been owned by the Duke of Kingston.  Prior, in Early Records, page 28, makes note of entries in the Diary of John Hervey, first Earl of Bristol, recording that the Earl's Wenn beat "Lord Kingston's white mare Pipeing Peg" on at least 3 occasions, including 9 April 1706, at Newmarket; given this date, Prior proposed that Piping Peg was foaled about 1698.
 
4.
In 1741, Cheny published a print of Brocklesby Betty.  The text reads:
The Portraiture of Brokelsby Betty the Property of Charles Pelham Esqr of Lincolnshire
Taken from an Original Picture of Thos Panton's Esqr
Brokelsby Betty (as Generally believ'd) was as certainly the Best Mare the Kingdom has produc'd as that Childers was Superior in Speed to all other Horses &c whatsoever.  She was bred by Mr Pelham (above mention'd.)  Her Sire is Sufficiently distinguish'd to Sportsmen by the Title of the Bay Barb.  A Horse presented by Muli Ishmael King of Morocco: to Lewis 14th of France, but afterward was the late Mr Curwen's, of Warkington, in Cumberland.
Brokelsby Betty's Dam was call'd the Hobby Mare; She was bred by the late Mr Leeds:  Her Sire was the Lister Turk; Eminent for being also the Sire of Snake; the late Duke of Kingston's Brisk Piping Peg; and many other fine Horses, &c.  This Turk (Grand Sire, as observ'd to Brokelsby Betty) was brought into England by the late Duke of Berwick, from the Siege of Buda in the Reign of King James the Second.
Brokelsby Betty at Newmarket, in April 1716: - (then 5 Years Old) beat a Mare of the Duke of Devonshires, for 100 Guineas:  the following August She beat 12 Mares for the Gold Cup at Black Hambleton.  In April, 1717, She beat 8 Mares for the Gold Cup at Newmarket; that August won a Silver Tea Board at Lincoln; and a £60 Gold Cup at York.  That October beat 4 Horses for the King's Plate at Newmarket: and Six Horses in the following April for the Gold Cup:  And in May that Year, beat the Duke of Wharton's Snail, for 200 Guineas: and afterward won a Match of 900 Guineas aside, against the Duke of Bridgewater's Ashridge, got by Leeds; and Esteem'd at that time the best Horse in the Kingdom.
Publish'd this 26th day of September, 1741, by John Cheny.
The text of this print is consistent with the earlier records regarding the pedigree of Brocklesby Betty.
 
5.
From the index to Cheny's "Racing Calendar" for 1743:
Truewhit, Mr.
Honeywood, 17
Honeywood was got by Young True-blue.
His dam by Basto, his Grand Dam was got by the Thornton Arabian.
His Great Grand Dam was the noted Mare called Brokelsby Betty, which Mare was got by the Curwen Bay Barb.
  This reference supplies another offspring for Brocklesby Betty, namely a filly by the Thornton Arabian (otherwise known as Bloody Buttocks); it also mentions again that Brocklesby Betty's sire was the Curwen Bay Barb.
 
6.
From the index to Cheny's "Racing Calendar" for 1745:
Leathes Carteret Esq;
Shepherdess, 31
Shepherdess was got by Brokelsby, which was out of Brokelsby Betty and Woodcock.
Brokelsby Betty was got by the Bay Barb. See p 110, 111.
Her Dam was got by the Lister Turk, Sire of ___ as p 106, 108.
This pedigree provides an additional offspring for Brocklesby Betty and repeats her pedigree as by the Bay Barb out of a mare by the Lister Turk.
 
7.
The next two records are advertisements appearing in Heber's "Racing Calendar" for 1754. On page 237 there is an advertisement for the stallion Victim:
At the Sign of Sedbury, at Whitewel, betwixt York and Malton, tha famous high bred Chesnut Horse, called Victim, at two Guineas a Mare. He was got by Cade; his Dam by Partner; his Grand Dam by old Greyhound, out of Brocklesby Betty, who was out of a Daughter of the Lister Turk and the Curwen Bay Barb. Victim's Dam was also the Dam of Teazer, Trinket and Jessamy.
This pedigree provides yet another offspring for Brocklesby Betty and repeats her pedigree as by the Bay Barb out of a mare by the Lister Turk.
 
8.
On page 251, another advertisement appears advertising several horses for sale.
To be Sold.
1. A Grey Mare rising seven, got by Sedbury, out of the Dam of Lord Gower's Little John, which was got by Bloody Buttocks, her Grand Dam by Greyhound, her Great Grand Dam was Brocklesby Betty, which was got by the Curwen Bay Barb, and out of a Daughter of the Lister Turk.
2. A Grey Colt rising two, out of the above Mare, got by Blaze.
3. A Grey Filly rising one, out of the same Mare, got by Regulus.
4. A Bay Mare rising nine, own sister to Lord Onslow's Squirrel, which was got by Forester, they were both out of the Dam of the Duke of Cleveland's Charon, the Mare was called Fair Wanderer and given by Lord Gower to Mr. Keeling, in the Bishoprick of Durham.
5. A Bay Filly rising two, out of the same Mare, got by Blaze.
Letters Post-paid, will be answered, by directing to the Publisher of these Books.
Both provide the same pedigree for Brocklesby Betty:  she was got by the Curwen Bay Barb, out of a daughter of the Lister Turk. This pedigree is consistent with those given for Hip and Long Meg, although the daughter of the Lister Turk is not identified. Further, it appears that Brocklesby Betty had at least one daughter got by Greyhound.
 
9.
From the index to Heber's "Racing Calendar" for 1761:
O’Brien, Cornet ...
Brutus, 95, 100, 101, 102, 108, 120, was bred by Sir Edward O’Brien, and got by Old England, Son of the Godolphin Arabian, his Dam was a famous Gallaway Mare of Sir Edward’s, distinguished by the Name of Patch, she was bred by Sir Arthur Hassleridge, and got by the late Ld Halifax’s Justice, Son the the Hampton Court Litton Arabian, upon Aldby Jenny, bred by Mr Brewster, her Grand Dam called Ruby, was got by Mr Leed’s Dragon: Patch’s Dam was the Ring-Tail Galloway Mare, she was out of a full Sister to the Witty Mare, being both Daughters of Curwen’s Bay Barb, and got by Hip, bred by Mr Pelham, by the same Bay Barb, upon a full Sister to Piping Peg, who was got by the Lister Turk.
This pedigree or something similarly written may very well have been the source of the confusion reflected in the entry for the HOBBY MARE in GSB. The pedigree should probably be interpreted to read that Brutus, bred by Sir Edward O'Brien was got by Old England. Brutus's dam was Patch, a galloway bred by Sir Arthur Hassleridge, and got by the Halifax Justice. Patch's dam was got by Hip, out of the Ringtail Galloway Mare. The dam of the Ringtail Galloway was a full sister to the Witty Mare, by Curwen's Bay Barb. Hip, bred by Mr Pelham, was (also) got by the Curwen Bay Barb, and out of a full sister to Piping Peg, by the Lister Turk. Therefore, the Ringtail Galloway and her descendants, Brutus and Patty, in Ireland, are descended from the dam of the Witty Mare, and not known to belong to the same female family as the Hobby Mare.
 
10.
From West Sussex Record Office: Petworth House Archives (Reference: PHA/5041; Details of horses in Petworth stud.  Creation dates: 1773-1774).
A Brown Mare Camilla was foaled the 8 of April 1767. She was got by Snap her Dam by Babraham, her Grandam by Achilles, her G Grandam by Goldenlock out of Colonel Howards Chesnut Mare who won the King's Plate at Newmarket in 1728 from eleven others. Colonel Howards mare was got by Sir Wm Stricklands Black Arabian out of the dam of the Carlisle Gelding. Achilles was got by full brother to the Duke of Boltons Fearnought, his dam by Diamond out of a Natural Barb Mare. Diamond was got by Jews Trump son of Ld Dearcys Chesnut Arabian out of the daughter of the Bay Barb. Golden Locks was got by a son of the Bay Barb, bred by the Duke of Devonshire out of a full sister of Childers's Dam, Golden Locks Dam was got by the Thoulouse Barb*, and his Grand Dam was the Dam of Brockels Betty.
This pedigree provides more complete information as to the breeding of the stallion Golden Locks. He is shown in GSB as GOLDEN LOCKS, Mr Pelham's, 1724, by a son of the Curwen Bay Barb (GSB, 5th edition, 1891, page 380). In the pedigree from the Petworth records, it can be seen that the dam of Golden Locks was by the Thoulouse Barb, a horse said to have been imported with Curwen's Bay Barb.

*See Cheny's index, 1743: "...the Thoulouse Barb..., was brought into England by the late Mr Curwen, of Workington in Cumberland. That gentleman being in France at a time when Count Byram and Count Thoulouse (two Natural Sons of Lewis the Fourteenth) were, the former, Master of the Horse, and the other an Admiral, he procured of them two Barb Horses, which he convey'd to England; One of which became Sir John Parson's, of Rygate, Surrey; which was styled the Thoulouse Barb...:
The other of these Barbs was a Present to Lewis the Fourteenth from Muly Ishmael, King of Morocco; which, after he came to England, proved so excellent a Stallion, that he is distinguishable to all Sportsmen, by the bare Title of the Bay Barb, as he could have been had there never been another Barb Horse of his Colour in the Kingdom."
 

 
Conclusions
Putting all this information together suggests that the roots of Bruce Lowe's Family 23 should look something like:

Piping Peg's dam
  • Piping Peg, the Duke of Kingston's, foaled about 1698, by Lister's Turk (raced 1706)
    • Snout, formerly the Duke of Kingston's, by old Snout (advertised at stud in 1724)
  • sister to Piping Peg (or Hobby's Mare, bred by Mr Leeds), by Lister's Turk
    • mare by the Thoulouse Barb
      • Golden Lock(s) by a son of the (Curwen) Bay Barb
    • Brocklesby (the Duke of Rutland's b h 1709), which GSB shows as brother to Brocklesby Betty, won the King's Gold Cup of 100gs value for 6 yo, at York, 24 Aug 1715; his breeding is not given in any of the contemporary sources reviewed here
    • Long Meg, by Pelham's Bay Barb (1710c; won the King's Plate for Mares at Newmarket, April 1716)
    • Brocklesby Betty, by Pelham's (Curwen's) Bay Barb (ch m 1711, won a Gold Cup for 5 yo mares, 19 Aug 1716, at York; and a Gold Cup for 6 yo Mares at York, 1 Aug 1717)
      • Brocklesby (a chesnut horse) by Woodcock**
      • mare by Greyhound (also named Brocklesby, see GSB, i, 1891; p. 44 - BROCKLESBY, bred by Mr CROFTS, in 1721)
      • mare by Thornton's Arabian "Bloody Buttocks" (grandam of Mr Trewhit's Honeywood)
    • Hip, by Pelham's Bay Barb: as the Duke of Somerset's he raced at Newmarket in 1718; "lately owned by Sir Wm Blacket, Bart", advertised at stud in 1724; sired the Ringtail Galloway
** The evidence regarding the sire of the stallion Brocklesby is conflicting: GSB and Cheny (index to his "Racing Calendar" for 1745) say that Brocklesby was a son of Brocklesby Betty and Woodcock while Pick (Turf Register, vol. 1, 1803; 6) and an advertisement for Spot, in the Norwich Mercury from April 25, 1752, describe Brocklesby as "son of Greyhound".
 
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