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Family 10 - Index
   
   



English Families

1 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 1g 1h 1i 1j 1k 1l 1m 1n 1o 1p 1r 1s 1t 1u 1w 1x 2 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f 2g 2h 2i 2j 2k 2l 2m 2n 2o 2p 2r 2s 2t 2u 2w 3 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 3g 3h 3i 3j 3k 3l 3m 3n 3o 4 4a 4b 4c 4d 4e 4f 4g 4h 4i 4j 4k 4l 4m 4n 4o 4p 4r 5 5a 5b 5c 5d 5e 5f 5g 5h 5i 5j 6 6a 6b 6c 6d 6e 6f 6x 7 7a 7b 7c 7d 7e 7f 8 8a 8b 8c 8d 8e 8f 8g 8h 8i 8j 8k 9 9a 9b 9c 9d 9e 9f 9g 9h 10 10a 10b 10c 10d 10e 11 11a 11b 11c 11d 11e 11f 12 12a 12b 12c 12d 12e 12f 12g 13 13a 13b 13c 13d 13e 14 14a 14b 14c 14d 14e 14f 15 15a 15b 15d 16 16a 16b 16c 16d 16e 16f 16g 16h 17 17a 17b 17c 17d 18 18a 19 19a 19b 19c 20 20a 20b 20c 20d 21 21a 22 22a 22b 22c 22d 23 23a 23b 24 25 26 27 27a 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74

FAIR HELEN (b f 1729c Squirrel [Williams']) ..... Family 10
     Grey Childers Mare (f 1741 Grey Childers)
          Gower Stallion Mare (f Gower Stallion)
               Snap Mare (f Snap)
                    Postmaster (b c 1771  King Herod)
                    Sister To Postmaster (b f 1774 King Herod)
                        Aimwell (b c 1782 Mark Anthony)
                        Sister To Gipsy (b f 1788 Trumpator)
                        |     Sister To Grazier (b f 1802 Sir Peter Teazle)
                        |          Gift (gr f 1818 Young Gohanna)
                        |               Myrrha (b f 1830 Whalebone)
                        |                    Plenipotentiary Mare (b f 1840 Plenipotentiary)
                        |                         QUEEN MARY (b f 1843 Gladiator) ..... 10-a
                        |                              BRAXEY (b f 1849 Moss Trooper) ..... 10-d
                        |                              BLOOMING HEATHER (b f 1852 Melbourne) ..... 10-e
                        |                              BONNY BELL (b f 1860 Voltigeur) ..... 10-b
                        |                              BONNIE DOON (b f 1870 Rapid Rhone) ..... 10-c
                        Gipsy (bl f 1789 Trumpator)
                             Bustard (br c 1801 Buzzard)
                             Cato (b c 1809 Sancho)
                             Scheherazade (ch f 1810 Selim)
                             |     Favourite (b f 1821 Blucher)
                             |          Partiality (ch f 1830 Middleton)
                             |               Ferina (b f 1844 Venison)
                             |                    Mahala (b f 1859 Rataplan)
                             |                    |     Chopette (b f 1869 North Lincoln)
                             |                    |     |     Crafton (b c 1882 Kisber)
                             |                    |     Lectrice (b f 1871 Lecturer)
                             |                    |     |     Buda (br f 1883 Balfe)
                             |                    |     |          Meanus (br f 1889 Kendal)
                             |                    |     |               Stopgap (b f 1901 Bushey Park)
                             |                    |     |                    Damage (br f 1905 Desmond)
                             |                    |     |                         Obliterate (bbr c 1921 Tracery)
                             |                    |     Coomassie (b f 1872 King Tom or North Lincoln)
                             |                    |          St Bride (b f 1884 Hampton)
                             |                    |               Griffon (b c 1897 Galopin)
                             |                    Pretender (b c 1866 Adventurer)
                             Scrambler (br f 1811 Waxy)
                                  Brahma (gr c 1833 Solyman)
   
Genetic Genealogy
 
A single haplotype has been reported to date in contemporary samples from family 10. The most recently published study effectively reports it as the same haplotype found in families 14 and 42 but this conclusion may be based upon insufficient data.

See Equine Genetic Genealogy.
 
Snap Mare (dam of Postmaster, by King Herod, &c)
 
This Snap Mare has been entered in GSB since 1791, but appeared without pedigree through the edition of 1808 (where it was noted "pedigree lost"). There was, however, an extended pedigree given in that edition for her daughter HEROD MARE (sister to Postmaster):

Bred by Mr CARTERET, in 1774, her dam by Snap - Gower Stallion - Childers.

N B Since printing off the former part of the book, wherein it was stated that the pedigree of Postmaster's dam was lost, we have been favoured by Mr Sandiver of Newmarket, with the above as the result of his enquiries.


Her pedigree continued to be shown as above until the 5th edition of 1891 when her entry was amended to read:

SNAP MARE,
Her dam by the Gower Stallion, grandam by Childers (probably the Grey Childers Mare - Fair Helen).
 
Gower Stallion Mare
 
This mare does not have a broodmare entry in GSB and is not included in the list of produce of the mare suggested as her possible dam in the 1891 edition (GREY CHILDERS MARE). The editor probably was not aware of the Gower Stallion mare in the following advertisement, apparently called Grey Childers after her dam, a mare (necessarily grey) by the Devonshire Childers.

Whitehall Evening-Post. From Saturday September 26, to Tuesday September 29, 1761. No. 2424.
To be SOLD by AUCTION, At Summerford-Hall in Staffordshire, on Friday the 9th day of October next, ALL the Horses, Mares, and Colts, of ROBERT BARBOR, Esq; lately deceas'd; amongst which are the following high bred ones, viz
A Grey Childers Mare, got by the Gower Stallion, her Dam by the Devonshire Childers.
A Grey Filley, four Years old out of the above Mare, got by Lord Gower's Moses.
A Dun Colt, one Year old, out of the same Mare, got by Lord Gower's Dun Barb.
A Three Years old Colt, got by the Gower Stallion, out of a Bay Bolton Mare.
A Chesnut Mare, got by Tortoise, her Dam by Paragon, out of a Mare called the Venables Mare.
A Two Years old Colt, out of the said Chesnut Mare, got by Lord Gower's Dun Barb.
A Chesnut Colt, three Years old, got by Moses out of a Chesnut Mare, called Gypsey. She was out of Lord Portmore's Old Gypsey, and got by Cartouch.
N B At the same Time and Place is to be sold, a good new Coach, with Harness, &c.


This mare's daughter by Moses (or an unknown sister) is noted as the dam of the stallion (young) Rippon, advertised to stand at Shrewsbury 1776-1780. Shrewsbury Chronicle. 13 Apr 1776. Vol. V. Numb. 171. April 2d, 1776.

RIPPON
Will COVER this SEASON, at the Fox-Hound-Kennel, in Shrewsbury, at One Guinea a Mare, and Half a Crown the Groom. RIPPON is a very fine Chesnut, fifteen Hands and Half an Inch high, remarkably Beautiful, Strong and Boney.  He was got by Mr Shaftoe's Old Rippon; his Dam by Lord Gower's Moses; his Grandam by the Gower Stallion; his great Grandam by the Duke of Devonshire's Flying Childers.  He is too well known in this County to require any farther Recommendation, and the great Success he has had in getting Foals, which are exceeding Handsome and Clever, sufficiently recommends him as a Stallion.  Old Rippon was one of the stoutest Horses that ever was whipt.  He won sixteen Plates and many of them at four Heats; and a Match of One Thousand Guineas, over New-Market.
 
Childers mare (grey) by the Devonshire Childers
 
This mare has not been definitely identified. However, pedigrees of horses given in the racing calenders suggest that Lord Gower did possess a grey broodmare.

Cheny's calendars 1737-1741 mention Ld Gower's filly by Mr Herbert's Horse (brother to the Bolton Fearnought), out of a grey mare bought of the Duke of Rutland. This (chesnut) filly started under this pedigree in Apr 1741, winning a Match of 200gs against the Duke of Devonshire's b f by Childers, out of Miss Jigg. She may have been the same as the chesnut mare Ld Gower started for the King's Plate of 100gs for 5 year old mares at Hambleton later that year and/or Ld Gower's ch mare Monselinder (by a full brother to the Bolton Fearnought) that started for the King's 100gs for 5 year old mares at Newmarket the following April.

There is also a reference to a Childers broodmare. In 1744, Ld Gower raced Bully, a b c by Fox Cub, dam by Childers.

If this mare was the grey mare bought of Ld Rutland, her produce would be:
1736 ch f Monselinder, by Brother to Fearnought (Mr Herbert's Horse) … Ld Gower
~1739 b c Bully, by Fox Cub … Ld Gower
~1745 gr f Grey Childers, by the Gower Stallion … Robert Barbor, Esq;

It is unlikely that this (grey) Childers mare is the same as the daughter of Fair Helen entered in GSB. Although the latter mare now appears as GREY CHILDERS MARE, her original entry in 1808 was as CHILDERS MARE, got by Grey Childers (brother to Fleece'em). Since Fair Helen was a bay, her daughter must have acquired her color from her sire; however there is some question about the identity of her sire: Ld Portmore's Grey Childers (1726) was got by Bartlet's Childers, and so was not a full brother to Fleece'em, while the only full brother to Fleece'em (by Childers) known from surviving records is Steady.
 
Fair Helen
 
"GREY CHILDERS MARE, Bred by Lord Gower, in 1741, got by Grey Childers (brother to Fleec'em), her dam, Fair Helen, by Williams's Squirrel, out of an Oysterfoot Mare" [GSB 1:10]. While it may be correct to assume that the Oysterfoot Mare was sired by the Oysterfoot Arabian there is no evidence to support this. See Oysterfoot Arabian.

Fair Helen won the 600gs Wallasey Stakes at Newmarket in April of 1734. In this race for five year olds, all carrying 9 stone, she defeated the Duke of Devonshire's Blacklegs, the Duke of Somerset's Quibble and Lord Lonsdale's Ugly. She also placed third in His Majesty's 100 guineas for five year old mares, all twenty entries carrying 10 stone in four-mile heats, on August 4, 1733 at Hambleton. The race was won by Mr Durham's Favourite, followed by Mr Witty's chestnut filly Belinda.
 

     
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