|A single haplotype has been reported to date in contemporary
samples from family 10. The most recently published study
effectively reports it as the same haplotype found in families
14 and 42 but this conclusion may be based upon insufficient
Equine Genetic Genealogy.
|Snap Mare (dam of Postmaster, by King
|This Snap Mare has been entered in GSB since 1791, but
appeared without pedigree through the edition of 1808 (where it
was noted "pedigree lost"). There was, however, an extended
pedigree given in that edition for her daughter HEROD MARE
(sister to Postmaster):
Mr CARTERET, in 1774, her dam by Snap - Gower Stallion -
N B Since printing off the former part of the
book, wherein it was stated that the pedigree of Postmaster's
dam was lost, we have been favoured by Mr Sandiver of Newmarket,
with the above as the result of his enquiries.
pedigree continued to be shown as above until the 5th edition of
1891 when her entry was amended to read:
Her dam by the Gower
Stallion, grandam by Childers (probably the Grey Childers Mare -
|Gower Stallion Mare
|This mare does not have a broodmare entry in GSB and is not
included in the list of produce of the mare suggested as her
possible dam in the 1891 edition (GREY CHILDERS MARE). The
editor probably was not aware of the Gower Stallion mare in the
following advertisement, apparently called Grey Childers after
her dam, a mare (necessarily grey) by the Devonshire Childers.
Whitehall Evening-Post. From
Saturday September 26, to Tuesday September 29, 1761. No. 2424.
To be SOLD by AUCTION, At Summerford-Hall in Staffordshire, on
Friday the 9th day of October next, ALL the Horses, Mares, and
Colts, of ROBERT BARBOR, Esq; lately deceas'd; amongst which are
the following high bred ones, viz
A Grey Childers Mare, got
by the Gower Stallion, her Dam by the Devonshire Childers.
Grey Filley, four Years old out of the above Mare, got by Lord
A Dun Colt, one Year old, out of the same
Mare, got by Lord Gower's Dun Barb.
A Three Years old Colt,
got by the Gower Stallion, out of a Bay Bolton Mare.
Chesnut Mare, got by Tortoise, her Dam by Paragon, out of a Mare
called the Venables Mare.
A Two Years old Colt, out of the
said Chesnut Mare, got by Lord Gower's Dun Barb.
Colt, three Years old, got by Moses out of a Chesnut Mare,
called Gypsey. She was out of Lord Portmore's Old Gypsey, and
got by Cartouch.
N B At the same Time and Place is to be
sold, a good new Coach, with Harness, &c.
mare's daughter by Moses (or an unknown sister) is noted as the
dam of the stallion (young) Rippon, advertised to stand at
Shrewsbury 1776-1780. Shrewsbury Chronicle. 13 Apr 1776. Vol. V.
Numb. 171. April 2d, 1776.
Will COVER this SEASON, at the Fox-Hound-Kennel, in
Shrewsbury, at One Guinea a Mare, and Half a Crown the Groom.
RIPPON is a very fine Chesnut, fifteen Hands and Half an Inch
high, remarkably Beautiful, Strong and Boney. He was got by Mr
Shaftoe's Old Rippon; his Dam by Lord Gower's Moses; his Grandam
by the Gower Stallion; his great Grandam by the Duke of
Devonshire's Flying Childers. He is too well known in this
County to require any farther Recommendation, and the great
Success he has had in getting Foals, which are exceeding
Handsome and Clever, sufficiently recommends him as a Stallion.
Old Rippon was one of the stoutest Horses that ever was whipt.
He won sixteen Plates and many of them at four Heats; and a
Match of One Thousand Guineas, over New-Market.
|Childers mare (grey) by the Devonshire
|This mare has not been definitely identified. However,
pedigrees of horses given in the racing calenders suggest that
Lord Gower did possess a grey broodmare.
calendars 1737-1741 mention Ld Gower's filly by Mr Herbert's
Horse (brother to the Bolton Fearnought), out of a grey mare
bought of the Duke of Rutland. This (chesnut) filly started
under this pedigree in Apr 1741, winning a Match of 200gs
against the Duke of Devonshire's b f by Childers, out of Miss
Jigg. She may have been the same as the chesnut mare Ld Gower
started for the King's Plate of 100gs for 5 year old mares at
Hambleton later that year and/or Ld Gower's ch mare Monselinder
(by a full brother to the Bolton Fearnought) that started for
the King's 100gs for 5 year old mares at Newmarket the following
There is also a reference to a Childers broodmare.
In 1744, Ld Gower raced Bully, a b c by Fox Cub, dam by
If this mare was the grey mare bought of Ld
Rutland, her produce would be:
1736 ch f Monselinder, by
Brother to Fearnought (Mr Herbert's Horse) … Ld Gower
c Bully, by Fox Cub … Ld Gower
~1745 gr f Grey Childers, by
the Gower Stallion … Robert Barbor, Esq;
It is unlikely
that this (grey) Childers mare is the same as the daughter of
Fair Helen entered in GSB. Although the latter mare now appears
as GREY CHILDERS MARE, her original entry in 1808 was as
CHILDERS MARE, got by Grey Childers (brother to Fleece'em).
Since Fair Helen was a bay, her daughter must have acquired her
color from her sire; however there is some question about the
identity of her sire: Ld Portmore's Grey Childers (1726) was got
by Bartlet's Childers, and so was not a full brother to
Fleece'em, while the only full brother to Fleece'em (by
Childers) known from surviving records is Steady.
|"GREY CHILDERS MARE, Bred
by Lord Gower, in 1741, got by Grey Childers (brother to
Fleec'em), her dam, Fair Helen, by Williams's Squirrel,
out of an Oysterfoot Mare" [GSB 1:10]. While it may be
correct to assume that the Oysterfoot Mare was sired by the
Oysterfoot Arabian there is no evidence to support this. See
Fair Helen won the 600gs Wallasey Stakes at Newmarket in April of 1734.
In this race for five year olds, all carrying 9 stone, she
defeated the Duke of Devonshire's Blacklegs, the Duke of
Somerset's Quibble and Lord Lonsdale's Ugly. She also placed
third in His Majesty's 100 guineas for five year old mares, all
twenty entries carrying 10 stone in four-mile heats, on August
4, 1733 at Hambleton. The race was won by Mr Durham's Favourite,
followed by Mr Witty's chestnut filly Belinda.